many thanks. Finish submitting for her student visa for Jan-June while still in USA It looks like this: 14. I’m a US citizen and plan on retiring early to live in Bari province. 1. My plan is to arrive in Rome with a Student Visa, apply for Residence Permit, go to London for 3 weeks and then come back to Rome. Hi Ruthy – I am not an expert in visas, but I do believe that you can only work 20 hrs/week with a student visa. Certification is designed for people whose mother tongue is not Italian. Once I retire, I will be joining my boyfriend in Florence. Rilascio, Rinnovo, Conversione, Duplicato, Aggiornamento del Permesso di soggiorno Richiesta Permesso di soggiorno CE lungo periodo Illimitata ( Carta di soggiorno CE) Richiesta Test d’italiano Cittadinanza Italiana. Otherwise, you need whatever visa would normally be required. Having basic Italian will help you a lot. You apply for a visa at a consulate in your home country. Thank you for posting! Natalie is a food and travel writer who has been living in Rome full time since 2010. Hi Emily – so glad you found the blog useful. I tried to track it online they showing in process. Thank you for your wiliness to share this information. My husband came to Ialy from the USA with only our passports. You will be able to depart on your passport. Thank you so much for the reply. In diritto amministrativo e in diritto internazionale, il permesso di soggiorno è un documento rilasciato da un'amministrazione di uno stato a un a che I’ve been searching dozens of sites, both American and Italian, and cannot find the answer to my question. Thanks for your quick reply! There are several ticket options so make sure you click the correct number. Take your forms, photo copies and bollo back to the post office. kit postale – Per poter richiedere il rilascio oppure il rinnovo del permesso di soggiorno, a partire dall’11 dicembre 2006, in Italia viene usato un nuovo metodo.Le domande devono essere presentate agli Uffici delle Poste Italiane che si occupano del servizio di Sportello Amico.. I didn’t make photocopies of the actual kit and now am freaking out I should have. They will also ask you where you want to pick the permesso up, so be prepared to name a police station near your house. I’ve been told that we will need a visa for a stay longer than 90 days. Don’t worry. I get Social Security and withdraw from my IRA; no pension or other source of income. Hi Josh! I’m also being told that we will not be eligible for a visa because we don’t have a documented reason to stay beyond 90 days. Vorrebbe richiamare la famiglia dalla Sierra Leone, tra l'altro, quindi l'errore nel cognome è grave. I used to live in a neighbourhood called Tor Marancia (near Garbatella) – good local character, slightly outside the city wall. we own a house here and I have the right to live here in italy. I am in the process of getting my dual citizenship through marriage, but doubt that it will be completed by October when we plan on going back to Italy for the winter. Hello Natalie Garbatella and Monteverde (also Monteverde Vecchio) are quite nice. Do you know if the process takes less time if you apply in the main city (Rome, Milan) or is it better to do it in one of the suburban comunes? I’m a political asylum in italy recently get permisso di soggiorno .can i work with it ? I intend to apply to a Master’s program at the University of Bologna next spring, and I want to clarify some things about the permesso and studying abroad. I have been checking the status of my application online, “residence permit is being processed” is the only status i have been seeing for this one month. Permesso di Soggiorno. My husband is not willing to change his because he fears that they might change his permanent status. Hi, The Rome questura has vastly improved and now has screens that will flash your name and the number of the desk you are meant to approach when it is finally your turn. At what point in the visa/schengen/permessio process can I apply for national healthcare? Salve, vorrei sapere cosa deve fare il titolare di una protezione sussidiaria, già in possesso di permesso di soggiorno, per avere la correzione del cognome. If you are in Rome, you can get the Rome questura by taking Metro B to Rebibbia. Pay attention to the giant screens that show which number the officials are currently serving. Thanks for your help! I own a property in Italy and was thinking to spend a year there (not working). Thanks in advance for any help! Thank You, Natalie, for the useful information!! I want to make sure I have this correct. I’m still waiting for my first PDS to be issued, and I want to travel to Spain. Are we still able to apply for this? You must now sign an Accordo di Immigrazione form at the Questura. So by the time you have the permit, you have been in Italy for about 3 months (or more). Do I need a visa or PdS to move to Italy. Well done!! Salve, avrei una domanda. At any point during the process were you asked for proof of income? Anyway thanks for all the articles. I want to apply for permesso next monday, i really appreciate if you can reply my question a.s.a.p. Am I allowed to go to Spain directly, with only my PDS application receipt, passport, and current Italian visa? Can you plz tell me is it possible to travel out of Italy while the permesso di soggiorno is being processed and our visa has already expired. I am sure you will love where you end up! As for now i am traveling back and forth so i dont over stay my visa. Hi, 1. Hi Natalie, Fantastic information! This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. 3. #permessodisoggiorno,#problemsofsoggiorno, come film the. My partner and I are a few years away from retirement and sorta planning the next chapter. Should we make a re-entry Visa.And when I wouldn’t worry! Hello Natalie! Hi Emily — I am so glad it is helpful! Gah! For student visas, you can work 20 hours/week and you can look for that work once you get here. Garbatella is on Metro Line B – a few stops on from Colosseo. A presto Emma One of the reforms to come out of Romano Prodi's goverment is that you no longer need to go to the Questura request or renew your Permesso di Soggiorno. Thank you so much for the information. Hi Emaan! The PLIDA certificate for level A2 or above is valid for the issue of a long term residence permit (permesso di soggiorno). Not to get too personal, but were you able to save up this amount of money and survive on it as a graduate student living in Rome? I am an American on a long term study Visa, multi entry type D. I just arrived back from the joys of fingerprinting for my permesso di soggiorno, haha. I just applied for an elective residency visa and expect it to be approved. Or, put a bit differently: How lenient are the officials in granting a permesso di soggiorno to someone who is in the process of looking for employment? Having lived there for many years and having been from J1 to H1B visas and finally green card, having assisted US friends get their permesso di soggiorno in Italy , i think you should revise your negative comments… Thanks for listening. Ricongiungimento familiare e Coesione familiare. Ive never been overseas or had a visa or anything this is all new to me but I’ll do anything to be with the one I love and hopefully won’t need to worry anymore! Per tutte le tipologie di aggiornamento, è necessario ritirare presso gli uffici postali un apposito Kit, del quale compilare solo il “modulo 1”, ed aggiungere ad esso la documentazione ulteriore, che varia in base alla ragione per la quale si procede all’aggiornamento. grateful your info as always, I applied a teaching position, one requisite was ‘ valid working papers for Italy’ – unclear this meaning, I am EU so need Codice Fiscale, home address Italy (will be Anzio) then anagrafe. I’m wondering what you meant at the end of your post by “start the process over again” after a few months. I don’t want to work in Italy, neither study, I just want to enjoy the museums and the Venetian life style for those 7 months. Should i follow the same steps in order to take the permesso and do i have to apply for a visa first to enter in Italy or to travel with schengen? Hmmm.. No. Just thought I would share my experience for anyone reading! Just wanted to confirm I don’t need fotocopie of the modulo 1 that I Vediamo insieme le differenze tra carta di soggiorno e permesso di soggiorno. Note: I already have an apt lined up for my initial arrival (approx July 2018) and I have retained a lawyer for my js once my residency is official. I read through them all and didn’t find an answer to mine, which is: I am an American citizen arriving Oct. 2nd in Rome with a student visa, but I made plans to travel to Greece for ten days immediately after arriving in Rome (actually the next day, but likely not enough time to apply for the permesso). I submitted the necessary documents to the Italian Consulate in my state of residence to reacquire my Italian Citizenship which they accepted and received a stamped “DICHIARAZIONE DI RIACQUISTO DELLA CITTADINANZA ITALIANA”. Wow! Welcome your thoughts? For work permit how long may i wait ? Vediamo insieme in questa completa guida come convertire il permesso di soggiorno in carta di soggiorno permanente.Il permesso di soggiorno consente, agli stranieri e agli apolidi, presenti sul territorio dello Stato italiano di rimanere in Italia; alle condizioni e … You can travel with the receipt as proof! You might want to check the official information site: Thanks! That’s right, it is called a “kit”. Avendo un permesso di soggiorno per studio in fase di rinnovo dall’inizio di giugno (richiesto a maggio ma i rilievi in questura sono stati fatti a giugno, poichè da loro è stato fissato l’appuntamento) il quale rinnovo è di 6 mesi (quindi al 31-12 scadrà) non si può viaggiare nello spazio Schengen. I have applied for Permesso through my husband (Italian) in Calabria (South Italy). Here, you will need to pay the fee for the permesso (varies depending on length of validity but is 107.50 euro for most common 1 year version), then you will have to pay the post office 30 euro- just because. I have all my receipts showing that I’ve begun the process and a visa. The permesso is what converts the visa (which allows you ENTRY for a set time) into a permit to actually stay. I’m making it sound like I’m looking to be a total loafer or Cosmo Kramer in Italy (I’m not, I promise! The interview should be pretty short. I imagine you probably need the actual card. I’m curiously about the PdS. My daughter and I are beyond frustrated with not being able to get a straight answer on the following anywhere, including from the Italian Consulate and the US Department of State. Once you have a non-tourist visa, you convert that into a permesso by going through the steps above. Or did you receive a 10 year carta di soggiorno? I have my passport photos ready. Enjoy the culture shock! Good luck! So, should we first get her a multiple entry visa or the apply for the permesso at Italy embassy in China? REALLY. Thanks, Hi Sandra – I have this now and I think once all my documentation was approved, it only took about two weeks before I was able to pick it up at the questura. Alle autorità consolari del vostro paese presenti in Italia dovete richiedere una dichiarazione consolare dalla quale risultino i dati di cui si chiede la variazione. Hi, thanks for this post! No one really knows how to fill them out. Il permesso di soggiorno è un documento differente dalla carta di soggiorno e dal nuovo permesso CE di lungo periodo. It is possible to apply for the Pemesso di Soggiorno for stay more than 90 days? Just because you are applying digitally. Hi Kaitlan, 7. With EU citizenship it should be no problem, but I’m not familiar enough with the Swiss immigration rules within in the EU. I’m retired with an Elective VisaI and currently am waiting for approval of my PdS. If so, does she need to start the whole PdS process for this 90 day period, the full year- long intended stay, or not at all at this point? 15. No, you will need a registered contract or an official letter of invitation from the owner which states that you are allowed to stay in their home. Buongiorno, chiedo un chiarimento circa le possibilità di correzione di errori riportati sul permesso di soggiorno. I’m so glad that the blog is helpful! This is meant as a DIY guide, but I always suggest an immigration lawyer for specific questions or complicated cases. Arrive. Thanks for your help! Please. permesso di soggiorno has been dispatched from Rome from tuesday.Can you please tell me how much time will it take now to be delivered here in Varese. Questa è una versione del sito destinata in generale a chi parla Italiano in Italia. Hi Natalie, These are the steps to follow when you already have a visa for Italy for more than 3 months. i am also in same situation and second time i applied for permesso di socciorno..and i want to take a flight from sofia to Istanbul. Can you tell me – what is the permesso exactly? Now I am in the process of reapplying for the visa here in the US and your blog was super helpful in reminding me of the Permesso process once I get there….Im near Perugia but same stuff applies. I’ll be in Milan so I hope things aren’t too different – I’ve heard mixed things about whether you go first to the post office or first to the Questura. Hi Beatrice! I would go ahead and apply now. Am I able to travel outside of Italy or am I stranded in this beautiful but politically messed up country? I will enter, as always, with my American passport that will be stamped in my entrance to Italy. I just want to make sure that I didn’t have to make copies of every page of the application (modulo1) and that I’ll be fine showing up with just the copies and original copies you mention above and that the receipt of the application from the post office will suffice? So it is valid for one year, but that year is eaten away by many of the steps. Hi Sofia – you do not need to copy the module! Vi conviene rivolgersi ai volontari che fanno assistenza agli stranieri per la richiesta dei documenti, francamente la situazione sembra troppo seria per poterla risolvere su un forum di viaggi. Are there any other places that it is necessary to show it? Go to the tabbachi and buy a bollo. Thanks, Hillary! From what I understand, if you are living legally in another country, then you can apply through the Italian embassy in that country. Sorry how are you guy’s doing, can you travel with your six months permes di sigorrn by flight with your home country passport??? It should take around 45 days. My question is this: Do you think we should still get the kit and apply for the permesso within the 8 business days just in case we get the visa? Is it necessary? I ended up applying for the permit just in case (I was feeling super paranoid). Here is how you can get your very own Permesso di Soggiorno (Italian permit for stays longer than 3 months): Within 8 days of moving to Italy, you have to apply for your permesso. Hi Gia, I think you might need the actual permesso but it may also depend on the employer. Congrats! This is because you have to convert your visa (which grants you access into the country) to a permit of stay (which allows you to actually stay in the country). The permesso should be ready in 30-45 days and you can then go pick it up at the police station nearest to your home. Get your appointment! I appreciate your thoughts, and I’m sorry if the question has already been addressed in this very popular thread. I usually pick my up from my own questura any time after it is ready… not at an assigned time and date. I converted mine after marriage without a new visa – but I had a different visa to begin with. Thanks for your article, can i apply for permesso without “the real” address ? Natalie, The PdS is usually valid for 1 year. I know that I only can be in Italy for 90 days. Excelsior! In this case, I just show up like he does and apply for my PdS, right? Thank you so much for the info. Go to the Post Office (ugh). Anyway thank you very much for the information and it would be very helpfull if i i can contact you for more information. You can also get the Codice Fiscale in Italy after you arrive, however it may be easier to do at the Embassy if they have appointments. Do I have to attend a language course? This is exceptional information. I would like to have your email or another form of contact . Hi, Natalie. Obviously, if we don’t get the visas, we need to leave the Schengen area for 3 months and then return to Italy. I am not sure on this one, but all anagrafe have an information desk so you might want to go directly. Hi Natalie, Hi natalie, Definitely going to binge-read the blog instead of doing schoolwork!! He on the other hand entered the country as a basic tourist (I.e without having applied for a visa prior to entering Italy or leaving the U.S.) so applying for a PdS within Italy is a good idea? Situation – going to Italy as an Au Pair – needs to be there Sept ’18-Sept ’19 Although Rome is trying to improve and expand its subway system, it’s basically a Hey Natalie, I’m Australian and I have a fiance who’s Italian who is actually visiting me in just 2 days, happy new year! It must be requested by the immigrant to be allowed to reside in the country for more than eight days, or more than ninety days […] Claudia. I just know the permesso process once the visa is taken care of. thanks in advance. Hi Anik! Thoughts? Once you arrive at the Poste Italiane take a ticket from one of the machines in the lobby-area. I’ve been reading a bunch of different expat blogs and so happy I found yours! I did not know this when I applied for the visa, and I was intending to travel around without a fixed address. Hi Natalie! This posting of yours helps a ton! Hi Natalie, thanks for your speedy response! Hi Julie – unless there is a critical issue, I would suggest you do everything in your power to go to the original appointment. Thanks for your article. Should I start worrying? I don’t think that is an issue at all. We are planning to get married a couple months in on her 3 month tourist visa here, if/when we get married, what type of visa do I need for Italy’s permit to stay, and will I need to do the same thing listed in your steps? Ciao. Can I go the next day and check? Candidates eligible. The dread is real, but you can get through it Good luck! Avra grossi problemi dovra passare per la commisione oppure e una procedura facile? Mainly, the officer will go over the information with you, check your documents and take your finger prints. Permesso di soggiorno is a document that the Italian state demands of all foreign citizens, that is citizens of countries that are not part of the European Union (EU). Required fields are marked *. ?are there different times of residences(residenza ellettiva)? Prezi. Hi Sam! but i want to be sure about that with receipt from post office, can i go to sofia or not. Any info about this will be helpful. I assume that someone must certify that I an at an A2 level, but who does this? Hi there, I am a student in Italy, applied the permesso in June and had my fingerprinted in early July. I got this blog on very right time as I am in the middle of this process. I am assuming I have my CF, Get a home fast in Anzio 50km south west of Roma where I have Italian friends, Go to Anagrafe in Anzio to register my residency and go thru’ that process – and that should be all. After receiving my PdS, I will apply for citizenship via jure sanguinis. I have just completed my appointment at the Questura. I am a type 1 diabetic. Bit quieter but still reasonably connected (though sometimes a long wait for the bus…). please grateful your advice. So valid Working papers dunno? It shouldn’t be, but I’m not sure! We don’t want to work, just stay in Italy for 6 months traveling. If you are non-EU, you have to get a visa that allows work, or no employers can hire you legally. 4 years ago, my mother is half american , so I apply from her to get a green card I’m 29 years old and I going to get my green card at 37 years old !! Thank you in advance. You literally just need to pick it up and leave so the people behind you in line should not be too mad. Thanks, However, you start the process after one week in Italy, and get an appointment that is about a month in the future, then you have to wait 45 days for the permesso to actually be issued. Is there any chance you can apply to language schools to teach at before you arrive? (I apologize for my delayed response– I only now saw that you had responded forever ago!). This is because you have to convert your visa (which grants you access into the country) to a permit of stay (which allows you to actually stay in the country). Inserisci il numero di pratica (10 caratteri) o il tuo numero di assicurata (12 caratteri) della richiesta del tuo permesso di soggiorno Oltre all’avviso visualizzabile tramite questo sistema informatico, sullo stato del procedimento, sarà inviato al cittadino straniero un sms con l’indicazione delle modalità per il ritiro del permesso di soggiorno già pronto: giorno, ora e luogo. When I arrived, I waited 2 hours, and then was told there was some problem and I had to come back the next day instead. Your post – especially the pictures – was the most helpful thing I found to help me feel ready. It is extremely helpful in knowing what to expect in obtaining a permesso de soggiorno. 3) On the matter of finances – I have heard that in order to receive a visa/renew one’s permesso, one must have proof of sufficient personal funds, totaling somewhere around $6,600 USD as of August 2016. However the other requirement is that you prove you posses an A2 level knowledge of the Italian language. I understand it is useless to show the brown receipt for staying in France (Schengen countries) while under renewing process, but since my passport has a visa -free travel for 90 days in France, in this case, does anyone know if I could use this for staying in France now? You always need a plan B in Italy. Hi Daniel! However, that is nothing more than an somewhat educated guess! Thanks for all the great information, Natalie. The permission we seek is that of living legally in Italy. I am in the same predicament, here on a working holiday visa so my intention is to travel around for the first 3 months and means I don’t have a fixed address. Or does having my German residency (VISA) allow me to apply directly for the permesso somewhow? Not every tabbachi has the machine to print bolli so don’t panic if you strike out. Use re-entry Visa. Are you qualified to answer the questions? Once inside, you will go through a quick security screening. Previously I was in chicago for years and now shifted to Turin here for work and may stay some years here. Thank you so much!!! Hello Natalie, do you have an idea how long it takes the questura to issue “carta di soggiorno di familiare di un cittadino dell’unione”? This helped me so much – thank you! My question is after taking pErmesso di soggiorno do you have to get also residence from the commune., Roma. My inclination is that we should, but I’m not sure if it’s even possible. You can find machines that take photos like these for about €5 all over Rome, and especially at metro stations. I do not know about that one. Your email address will not be published. Not sure I understand… you do have a visa? You can only get a permesso with a visa – so the first step would be to request a family unification visa from the Italian embassy in your country of residence now. Thank you Natalie. Hi David – you will need the visa before you leave and will then convert that into the permesso. That might be something to keep in mind if you want more permanent work. Autenticazione. Other sites say that once I have a PdS I can use the Italian national health system.While these statements are not contradictory I would guess that the latter is too good to be true, is it? I have a question that seems thorougly covered, but not clear. I am just confused because he doesn’t have a visa to switch from …, Hi Manu – if you have residency, your husband should be entitled to a carta di soggiorno (motivi familiare), Thanks for your post I have a study visa valid for one year as I take my master in Rome however my course is 10 days every 2 months I have took to classy as now I just stay 15 days every time I enter Italy after the 15 days I leave to my home country now I have six months left on my visa my next course start on October also for 15 days but this time I wanted to stay for more than 90 days it’s ok for me to apply for stay pirmet in Italy.